“I think sometimes doing the things that we want to do, a lot of other people can perceive as attacks and punches like they’re getting punched in the face by what we want to do.” Jim Kleiber
Join Niiamah (@niiamahashong) as he and Jim Kleiber navigate the complex terrain of personal ambition, family expectations, and societal norms. This engaging dialogue explores the tension between playing it safe and pursuing bold, unconventional paths in life and career.
Timestamps:
0:01 – Introduction and purpose explained
1:01 – Discussion on coaching podcast
2:20 – Setting expectations for conversation
2:59 – Jim’s desire to play big
4:04 – Challenges of playing big discussed
5:42 – Jim’s proudest accomplishments explored
7:35 – Discussing fear and cultural norms
8:57 – Exploring the outlier vs outsider concept
10:02 – Niiamah’s recovering people-pleaser background mentioned
11:21 – Jim’s skill in creating open spaces
13:50 – Family and cultural expectations discussed
15:19 – Jim’s global experiences shared
18:18 – Analogy of coming out explored
19:47 – Jim’s appearance and playing differently noted
21:36 – Niiamah shares personal relationship example
23:21 – Glass partition analogy discussed
25:31 – Jim’s defensive reaction explored
28:31 – Jim’s big idea explained
31:28 – Niiamah offers to help
34:28 – Discussion on bottom line
36:33 – Exploring alternative business models
39:54 – MacArthur Fellows Program mentioned
41:45 – Discussing business model alternatives
44:02 – Jim’s philosophy on giving explored
47:36 – Addressing reciprocity in relationships
49:34 – Emotional combat concept introduced
51:29 – Exploring intimacy in commerce
53:06 – Jim’s biggest insight shared
53:41 – Niiamah’s perspective on crowd employment
54:29 – Closing remarks and appreciation expressed
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